Is Fiverr a scam?

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  1. NEROMARE

    NEROMARE Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been thinking about making a post or a blog article about this for so long. So straight to the point.

    Is Fiverr a scam?

    If you type “is Fiverr” in the search, Google’s the autocomplete function shows relevant results in a descending order and it sorts on the popularity and the volume of searches and visits (daily, monthly, yearly).

    Here are the top search phrases:

    1. is Fiverr legit
    2. is Fiverr safe
    3. is Fiverr worth it
    4. is Fiverr any good
    5. is Fiverr trustworthy
    6. is Fiverr legitimate

    Here are 6 out of the 10 top searches connected to the search phrase “is Fiverr”. And that doesn't look promising. This is pretty unusual actually for a business from that caliber, like Fiverr.

    We are fairly new to the Fiverr platform and we’re primarily using Fiverr for our marketing purposes. Better rating and more sales build more trust.

    So not so long ago, we needed something done quickly and we didn’t insist on the highest possible quality so we spent $5 for a Gig, an audio Gig to be exact. We needed a female vocal on our own instrumental track for our YouTube channel. We needed a “free for commercial usage” and an exclusive audio vocal. We found a seller, supposedly from “the States”, who offered exactly that, we liked his profile photo and description, we spoke to him, asked him if the vocals are exclusive, he said yes, and we paid. We left him a tip.

    The instrumental (our song) was only one. It was 100% exclusive. Never published anywhere on the Internet, made by a friend of ours who’s an American from Georgia. We merged the vocal with our instrumental together and uploaded it to YouTube, so now it became a song.

    It got claimed in YouTube almost immediately, someone blocked our video worldwide.

    What have just happened?

    The “exclusive vocal” was actually a part of a song. Fully stolen lyrics. A not so famous song from Russia. We nearly got our YouTube account suspended. The vocal was stolen, lyrics were stolen. A complete rip off. We reported the intelectual thief after he refused to refund our cash, we got our money back in a day from Fiverr.

    Fiverr has politics not to transfer your money back to your card or PayPal. They just refund the money back to your profile so you can only spend it on the platform again on another Gig and recirculate the money back inside their platform, which makes sense. They earn more and lose less.

    So with these $5, what else to do? “Don't know. Let’s just pick that.” We ordered a “YouTube Video Boost” this time, from two Bulgarians. Bulgarians like us. We didn’t have huge expectations for that price again, but we expected at least some views. The Gig said “organic 1,000 views” or something in that matter it was.

    Our compatriots, these “great” Bulgarians under the name YoungCeaser in Fiverr, scammed us nice.

    Again a scam for $5 USD. And we’re not for the $5. We couldn’t care less. These two people, two brothers we believe, the YoungCeasers, one of the brothers is called Kristiyan Uzunchev (Кристиян Узунчев) ... they promised for “organic views,” not bot views. So we ordered their Gig, and we have waited for 3 days, but nothing happened. Deadline was met. We waited even more, and eventually we contacted the sellers — the YoungCeaser, the “great” young Bulgarian YoungCeasers, and they promised they’ll deliver our stuff. Next day, our YouTube video got 14K views for just an hour. To make a comparison, we get 300-400 views per day in total. From 300 views and to 14K — and that’s not suspicious? And that’s real views? Come on!

    All the views were coming from Russia and Ukraine — one of the top Internet scam locations. The two scam destinations following Nigeria, Ghana and China. Not sure if you know, but that’s against YouTube’s ToS — buying fake views, or any type of “outside” views on that matter, and that is a pretty good way to get your account banned instantaneously! Hopefully, we didn’t get ours disabled. We saw our fake bot traffic and we immediately contacted the brothers YoungCeaser. We have told them to stop whatever they were doing. Nothing stopped! For 4 days we got perfectly obliterated by fake traffic. We have contacted Fiverr when the fake bot traffic didn’t stop for days because things started to get serious. 13-14K views every day, the same time afternoon, for one hour, that was very bad. We felt scared and defenseless. The views got constantly removed by YouTube of course.

    What you do in such matters is you remove your video and re-upload it again. It’s the only choice you’ve got.

    So that’s clearly a scam. No doubt about it. And we get it. People want cheap goods, and these scammy sellers come off as Saviors and offer the golden egg served on a golden plate for just $5 bucks! Most people will try it and risk five dollars. Who cares about five dollars, right? But for us the issue was about principles.

    As a conclusion, that’s where these seller’s money and all these stars of rating come from. From the quantity of scammed people. Fiverr looks like it doesn’t care and we get it. They want their commissions and as long as they get their money — who the hell cares. Money makes the world spin, right? No morals. Fiverr gets 20% percent from the seller and a transaction fee on the buyer.

    But without principles who are we? We don’t want to donate our five dollars to some scammer from Bulgaria, Nigeria, Canada, Russia, even America or whatever. $5 dollars is $5 dollars. We can something to eat, get a movie ticket, make someone happy by giving a gift, or give the money to a homeless person. Not everything in this world is not about the money! It’s about the principles! The human principles of honesty! To not be a scammer and a complete and utter human trash.

    Sadly, there’s another problem with Fiverr.

    A problem that is a very hot topic right now. A fact is that 95% or more of the sellers on Fiverr are scammers from the 3rd world that don't even speak basic English. Their level of entitlement is also psychotic. These sellers demand work. It’s like they think work should come to them when they demand it, like a fish that jumps into the boat and cooks itself. Like people must buy from them, or else... And the majority of the sellers on Fiverr are from the BIP, or how I like to call it.

    What’s the BIP?

    That’s Bangladesh, India, and Pakistan. Cheap low quality labor, or sometimes no labor at all.

    You almost can’t find anyone that’s “normal” and professional on Fiverr if you didn’t knew the person before. If you knew us, and we send you a link to our profile — it’s completely fine. Or if someone close to you vouches for us. Sure.

    But you don’t know us? We have a scammy-looking website made with no effort? You better stay away. We’re maybe a scammers from Sri Lanka! No racism intended, it’s what it is. Truth hurts, isn’t it?

    And those two Bulgarians, the YoungCeasers, happily they got banned like 2 months ago from the Fiverr platform, so we guess there is some justice after all. Karma. The universal galactic Karmic laws don’t skip on anyone. Not on Bulgarians, not on Nigerians, not on Americans. You simply cannot escape. There’s a third silent party on every matter and on every deal we make.

    With all that being said, now please don’t go and wait for Karma to be served to your adversaries and don’t rely on Karma to save you all the time, because Karmic laws work negatively against cretins and naive people too. For being too dense and blunt you pay. For being too lazy you pay. Nature hates lazy as much as it hates arrogant. And it hates stupid. Careless animals die first in nature. The negligent mouse gets eaten first; a dinner for the owl or snake.

    Fiverr was not a scam but it becomes a scam by allowing scammer-sellers to operate on it.

    Buyers, Beware! (Beware with a capital “B”)



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    Fiverr is not a scam,fiverr is just a platform.There are many scammers there and the main problem is,that fiverr customer support just don`t cares about the users.This company only cares about it`s revenue(fees from every gig sold).
    All the "traffic" gigs are just bot/fake traffic,but who cares.Idiots are still buying tons of fake traffic,so fiverr makes more money.
     
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    Something more...

    India, Pakistan and Bangladesh together make up about 25% of the world's population, or something like that. Around 20% percent, plus. If you ever post a job in Fiverr or Upwork, you'll mostly get Indians, Pakistanis or Bangladeshi. It's not only about the sellers, but about the buyers as well. Buyers — they're paying the freight too!

    I googled and there are 51,000 (fifty one thousand) results of the phrase "freelancers from India". No offense, but I think that India and these other two countries should have a website only for them. These guys are completely clogging up the job queues. I clicked on a random job on Freelancer.com and there was currently 22 Indian people and 6 from Pakistan in the queue and no one else. I wouldn't be surprised if others have all given up, because of these guys that work for insanely cheap and always promise "100% satisfaction guarantee".

    No wonder why PayPal doesn't work in India, Pakistan, or Bangladesh.

    While it is dirt cheap to have a web developer from India, it also turns out to be extremely time consuming and stressful. Also for example, "Web Developers" from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, the Philippines and other similar countries lack an understanding of some basic English language and the language barrier is displeasing when you try to explain something simple, let alone an important message.

    Also these Web Developers' websites are poorly coded.

    After a while of battling with your developer from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Philippines and other similar countries, you get a website that looks completely unfinished, ugly, ugly colors, slow loading and 100% hacker-friendly. If you can't talk simple English with your developer, then how can you expect them to create a professional website, if all the code is natively in Technical English.

    Yes, having a web developer from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and other 3rd world countries is cheap, they work for less than $5 bucks per hour, some even go as low as $1 USD per hour. Yes, one freaking dollar per hour! How sick is that!? Compared to the standard 50–80 USD per hour from a real web developer or a software engineer, it's dirt cheap.

    So yes, this is a problem.
    Wait until they run out of money and start taking over other fields, both online and offline jobs.

    Who's fault is it?
    The platform's fault, for not "controlling" the population. Upwork placed limits, but it's only them for now, and God knows how many of these "100% satisfaction" Guarantees are already there!

    I will keep this thread relentlessly active so that people can read and open up their eyes one day! That's a hell of an eye opener.
     
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    Първо-Не знам какъв е смисъла да се пишат цели фермани на английски в БГ форум по тема,която няма кой знае какво значение.
    Второ-Оплакването и мрънкането са стратегия на лузъра/загубеняка.Как не ги е срам тия от третия свят да работят по 12 часа на ден за $1 на час?
    Ми щом работят по 12 часа на ден за 1 долар на час значи са по-конкурентноспособни от теб(дори да са некадърни програмисти).Или ще мрънкаш в тоя форум,или ще намериш начин да оцелееш на пазара.
    Има 2 типа клиенти:
    1.Търсят евтиното.Колкото по-евтино,по-добре.Качестовото нема значение.
    2.Съгласни са да платят и $500 на час,стига да получат качество насреща.
    Ако си кадърен програмист и знаеш как да се промотираш сред втория вид клиенти,кво ти пука за Индия,миндия и.тн?
    Ако си некадърен,ми продължавай да се конкурираш с целото циганско човечество за първия тип клиенти и от време на време се оплаквай във форума как тия азиатски гадове ти крадат клиентелата(не ги е срам!).
    Не ми се пише на английски,щото тва все пак е БГ форум,а не Уориър форум или блакхатуорлд.
     
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    I'm sorry you feel that way sir, but while I do agree with some points with you, I don't agree about everything with you, and I think I'm not the only one.

    Maybe you would want to read that, written by the Founder of this website @Blinky

    1. https://www.predpriemach.com/threads/Защо-да-пишем-в-англо-версията-Пазар-на-форума-Има-защо.45683/
    2. https://www.predpriemach.com/thread...рума-predpriemach-com-in-english.45069/page-5
    The posts are in Bulgarian so you should understand that perfectly. Cheers!

     
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    All that it is actually a problem and it doesn't have to do anything with me or my skills on that matter. I'm saying it's hard for you to find anything in the sea of cheap rubbish. And so many people fall for these traps, "100% satisfaction guaranteed".

    If you for example never purchased a lawn mower, how would you know what model or a brand is of a normal quality? Without a ton of research and losing a lot of time, now in 2018, you'd fall for someone's lies extremely easy!

     

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